Q

Oddvarg I-litter

SchH I, Kkl I, Dolli av Oddvarg

SchH I, Kkl II Q vom Haus Shiho

Dolli av Oddvarg
Sch H I ,Kkl. II Q von Haus Shiho
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Pedigree for litter

Sch H I, Kkl. I     Dolli av Oddvarg
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Introduction: Dolli av Oddvarg er parret og vil sammen med Q danne grunnlaget for Oddvarg sitt I - kull.
Dolli av Oddvarg are mated and will together with Q form the base for Oddvarg I-Litter. I will in this article provide a description of this to dogs, their background, pedigree and what I expect from this combination. For those who don’t know, Dolli is the sister to Dacke, which is the dog I compete with.  
Video of Dacke 18 months

Dolli was born in Norway and was sold to Dr. Wolfgang Tauber in Austria. Spring 2009 I swap Dolli for a new puppi that wasn’t quite so dominant. Dolli is a very firm lady, and not so easy to handle. Now she lives at Berget 26, were also 2 males and 4 children lives. We have no problems with Dollli and she is a favorite among the kids. But Dolli has also learned some new rules after she returned to her motherland.

 

 


 

Q is born in Japan and was sold to a cop in USA when he was 8 weeks old. This combination was so good, that it was done 6 times. Q has therefore got a lot of siblings. Q isn’t either an easy dog to train, and eventually he was sold to Europe when the cop no longer could handle him. Q has been breeding and training in several countries before he came to Sweden. Q comes from a litter with 100% healthy dogs, and has also offspring were whole litter has been normal HD/ED.

Q is the last living son from Orry Vom Haus Antverpa, who won Woldchampionship in 1992 with handler Roger Snollarts and both FCI/WUSV Championship in 1996 with handler Harou Masuda.




 

2 X WUSV SIEGER / 1996 FCI CHAMPION / SCHH3 / IPO3
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G Orry von Haus Antverpa
Odd-Ivar og Harou Masuda.   
Masuda was the owner of Orry and to times Worldchampion in 1996. Winner of several international competitions.  

Video
:Video of father of Q - Worldchampion 1992 and 1996

 

   

Mother of Dolli 

 

Mother of Dolli is my first breeding female, IPO/SchH III  WUSV/FCI Championship participant, winner of Norwegian Championship Brandfjellets Bima. I bought Bima from breeder Brandfjellet as a puppy and placed her in a home. They trained her in 1,5 year. After this I got her back and after a really intense period of six weeks with training intensive in A-B-C, we did her IPO I in Trondheim with 294 points.  

 

Following winter was Bima the mother of Oddvarg A - litter.

Bima  was as a puppy and a young dog, a really temperamental bitch with a lot of play drive and also aggression. What made her so special was above all her expectations for everything, but most of all obedience. She could work through the whole program without me  having to pray her or give her the ball all the time.

 

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NBCH IP Brandfjellet's Bima

She worked for me only on expectations. This is also the assets which gave us 97 points in obedience in FCI championship 2005 and 96 points in WUSV Championship the same year. I have never trained a dog with better abilities  for obedience then Bima. In addition to being a participant in Wold Championship 4 times, Bima is also the mother of 4 Championships participants which also is the winner of Norwegian Championships. Bima herself has won the national Championship 3 times.

Bima has a sister named Barga.  Barga was a police dog in Østfold police district and her specialty was tracking.  Steadily, she and her great skilled dog handler track criminals and this despite the fact that training base between missions was modest. Thomas Stærk is of the opinion that a search with a criminal at the end, provides a better training and experience base than over 100 training tracks.

Barga’s tracking characteristics are of course genetically, and then reinforced with good training methods. In addition her experience was a natural consequence of successfully tracking with founds. 

 
  

I can also mention that Barga’s father was the same. An unbelievable good tracking dog, both in service and competition.  Their 3 brothers who all was police dogs in Sweden was the same. This gene comes from the Arry Vom Schloss Zweibruggen-line. Arry is father to among others: Hassemans Axxe, Hindens Imze and Hindens Bronson. All very good tracking dogs who has proven that they inherited this assets, from generation to generation.

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Pema's Esko (Varg)
 
Pema's Esko (Varg)
 

 Bima’s father is Pema`s Esko (Varg). Varg was my second dog, and the first dog ever in Norway who started in IPO, and that was before this was an official program in Norway.  He was also the first Norwegian participant in World Championship, which we were single participant’s in. 1 participant, 1 team leader, 1 helper and 3 supporters. Varg competed in 3 championships, and he is the father of 3 other participants of Worldchampionship.

Varg’s father was Hinden's Bronzon . A big, powerful dog with a head like a polar bear. Bronzon competed in the Swedish protectionprogram, and was in this time probably Sweden’s most real and distinct dog in this program. Many good breeders used Bronzon as a stud. Among others the policeman MarMange gode oppdrettere brukte Bronzon i avl. Blant annet politimannen Martin Bergstrøm som er oppdretter pÃ¥ Varg.tin Bergström who is the breeder of Varg. I met Martin on a seminar in the beginning of the 90-th, that’s how Varg came to my possession.

 
 In memorial VARG  

 
Father to Bronzon is the son of Fero; Arry Vom Schloss Zweibruggen who was imported to Sweden in 1989. Some breeders wanted to bring German schutz-blood into Sweden, and they chosed to import a son of one of Germans most used studs Fero Vom Zeutener Himmelreich. I met Arry when he was in quarantine, before he could be put into practice. The first time I saw Arry was on a seminar in Sweden in 1991. At an age of 1,5 months he impressed with his great capacities for protection work. A dog with great play drive, social fighting spirit and real aggression.
SPH3, SKH3
Arry vom Schloss Zweibrüggen
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Arry vom Schloss Zweibrüggen
 

Arry didn’t get many matings in Sweden, but the few he got, he made deep impressions with. Both Bronzon, Imze and Axxe has great stories told of them. In dogsport, in service and in breeding. Most famous is Hinden’s Imze who won SSM several times and who has as best result in WUSV Championship nr. 4 year 2000.



Hindens ImzeKORAD +3 TJH, BHP, IP3, SCHH3, WUSV Kkl 2

If you look at the golden years for the Swedish team, the comet start they got in WUSV Championship, all the good Swedish dogs relates back to Arry. Directly or in 2-3 generation. I am convinced that the import of Arry is the main contribution for the Swedish success in 1999-2003. The Swedish dogs, as well as the Norwegian dogs, were bred at completely other assumptions than the German, they didn’t have the full grip or the hardness which we know has to be there to get the high points in dog sport. The import of Arry changed all that. The rest is history.

 
Father of Dolli

Como Von Rurdamm in Germany, trained in Belgium before he was sold to Sweden. 

 

Como was trained in Belgium by Bert Aerts  the World Champion in 1992, but with a Malinois. Already as a puppy Come showed himself as a very strong dog. He was hard and got very high social dominance. Not an easy dog to train, which is often common for very good dogs.  

 

On that time Bert train several other dogs, and after being qualified for FCI Championship in 2003 with one of them, he sold Como. Como came first to Netherland, and after a short time he came back to Belgium and Bert.

.  Link: Van de Berlex Hoeve

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Como vom Rurdamm
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Como vom Rurdamm


The buyer found out that Como was to demanding for him, and chosed to return Como, who was then sold to Sweden, were he lives today. Como is the father of many litters, and in my kennel he is the father for C and D litter.  In the C litter, it’s especially Camaro and Cantona that people has heard of. Both are very similar to Como and has one thing in common, they can’t get the arm deep enough into the mouth. Neither can they make the arm flat enough….

Video of Cantona 12 months

 

 

In dog sport its Dolli’s brother Dacke and half brother Aly who has the best results. Aly's best results in WUSV Championship is nr. 6 in 2007.

 Video of Dacke and half-brother Aly Gr C FCI WC 2008.

Dacke  was the winner of Norwegian IPO championship in 2009, no. 2 in 2008 and no. 3 in championship for German Shepherds 2009, also no. 13 in FCI World Championship in 2008. Merely an accident with the high jump prevented us to get a top result. Video of jump FCI WC 2008            Video of the full performance in Group B

A lot of crap is said about Como. That he is too hard, too aggressive and a lot more. But most of this nonsense is said by people who have never seen Como and using every opportunity to speak nonsense about other people’s dogs. Especially if this dog have done well in any context. Something has to be wrong, and for Como is that he breeds dogs with excellent mentality.

 

 

One of the first who used Como in breeding was the policewoman Marie-France Paolini, a breeder in Belgium, Renadloup. Marie-France won the Belgium championship in 1996 with the police dog Rambo Vom Hause Welz.. As far as I know, the only time that a police dog has won the championship for Schutzhund. An amazing achievement  for a woman who can combine service with competition. Rambo was by the way in service until he was 11 years old. His brother Rocky is one of the few who has 100 points in protection work at WUSV Championship, handled by Emiel Dilen. Marie used Como in a combination with Zaïre de Renaudloup after her dog Rambo, and it was a very good litter. Bert Aerts had a dog after this combination, Derry de Renaudloup, which was sold to Australia as an adult. Como breeds very good and people who have used him know the different between a good and a bad dog.

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Derry De Renaudloup Derry De Renaudloup

 
 
 

Como is altrough an open, honest and social dog, this is characters he also breeds. BUT strangers cannot approach him and try to pull his ears, or hurt him in any way. This is also true for most of the Como offspring, so if you want a dog who can be harmed by a stranger, don’t by a dog from me.    

 
   
Father of Como is the famous Amigo Vom Bracheler See. Amigo is Yoschy Vom Döllenweise’s most  renowned son. A dog as his father who was in possession of enormous working capacity. Americans was early interested in Amigo, and he was sold for breeding and training. The last, mostly intended. LGA,SCHH3,IPO3,FH
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G Amigo vom Bracheler See

Amigo’s brother Aron is also the father of Oddvarg B litter. Aron was more sensitive then Amigo, and has also sometimes bred this. Aron participated in several big competitions and many talked about his tremendous capabilities. Unfortunately, he was in the competitive context  not always able to show this. Mye skit snakkes om Aron og mest i uforstand. A lot of dirty talk has been said about Aaron and mostly from ignorance. Skal man seriøst vurdere en hunds mentalitet mÃ¥ man ogsÃ¥ ta hensyn til hva hunden har vært igjennom og hvilket treningsmessig erfaringsgrunnlag hunden har. SchH3 If one seriously wants to consider a dog's mentality, you must also consider what the dog has been through, and what kind of training experience the dog has.

 
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SG Aron vom Bracheler See
   

Amigo is a son of  Yoschy Vom Døllenweise.  This is a line that always passes correct and hard grip. In addition Yoschy was in possession of amazing qualities regarding courage, rigidity  and social fighting spirit. This made Yoschy hard to administrate in protection work and I believe he only got to compete once in BSP (The German Championship) were he was disqualified due to lack of control. Just 50 points in protection work.  

Yoschy protection work bsp

 

 

I don’t believe Yoschy was uncontrollable or impossible to handle in any way. It’s often the methods who get the results. Nothing just happens, it happens for a reason. I have myself been disqualified due to lack of control in my first World championship, and at that time I trained the same way that they used to do in Germany. The result shows whether you've trained right.  

Father to Yoschy is Troll Von  Der Bøsen Nachbarchaft , Troll is Fero’s most famous son. Troll was a legend regarding his working skills, and today he can be found in many pedigrees of very good dogs worldwide. Troll participated in many BSP and his best result was no. 22. It’s not always the winners who gets the majority matings or the most attention, good breeders often look for the dogs further down the result lists.

 

In addition to especially good qualities in protection work Troll was in the possession of another important feature. His expectations for obedience and his temperament. At the time we had German Shepherds who could do the whole program without getting the ball, toy, food etc. Such things are more and more rare today.  The breeding for the perfect grip, controllable dogs have given us a weaker dog, which often cannot do the technical obedience without requests from the handler. When a dog has insufficient obedience the public tends to blame the handler, but it’s not so simple.

 

Video  of obedience to Troll from BSP

 

Video part 1                        Video part 2                                           Video part 3       

 

I am of the opinion that Malinois in general is better sport dogs then German shepherd, especially in obedience. In all too much, we see that our dogs has lost much of its original assumptions for obedience. If you look at the video of Troll, who is nearly 20 years old video, you can see an old dog which makes a lot of smaller errors. But we can also see a dog that has the power, temperament and expectations to make the program with wagering tale and correct attitude. If a dog like that receive correction, it will adapt and do not creep around the handler as many dogs of today does.

We can discuss and criticize the performance of the dogs that time ago, but not without consider the evaluation for the judge in obedience and protection work 20-30 years ago. If you look at the video of Fero in protection work on BSP 1987 it looks terrible.

 Video of Fero in protection work

 

 

 But do not judge this old dogs without first thinking about the training methods for 25 years ago counter today, and also how the judges evaluate. It’s not comparable with today. For many judges, it was immaterial how the dogs bite, as long as the guarding was in order. 

 I want to preserve this abilities that Troll was in possession of in obedience, and this is much of the same qualities as his half-brother Arry has given. If you motivate this kind of dogs to much with ball or biting roll you soon get blocking and whining. Use of motivation on this kind of dogs must therefore be strongly strict and moderate. That’s the reason why the results are good provided that the dog is in the right home. Good results in dog sport is based on three components: A good dog, a good handler and a system that works.

Take one of the components away and you will fail.

 

Who is  Q:

 

As told earlier Q is born in Japan and a direct son of World champion 1992 Orry Von Haus Antwerpa.

 Orry was sold to Japan after WC 1992 to Harou Masuda, who won both FCI WC and WUSV WC with Orry in  1996. No other dog than Orry has won 3 times.  

 

 
 Harou Masuda, Orry  and Roger Snollaerts

Q ended up in Europe, where he was traied and bred. Q is not an easy dog to control in protection work, and this he has common with many good breeding dogs. This kind of dogs often breed better then they are themselfs.  

Q has performed between 30-50 bite with release/out during a training pass in protection work, without getting the arm, and without degraded the quality of the grip in any way. If you see the video of Q, you see a dog that engages wholeheartedly with great pressure in all guarding and attack phases.

 

Video: Q v Haus Shiho JP 2
Video: Q vom Haus Shiho long attack
 

 

I am convinced that Q shall be mated with females with strong nerves, good pray drive and big social fighting spirit. Controllable and of social skills. Therefore Dolli. These to complement each other perfectly. If this mating is correct, it will likely be the best combination so far.

Also regarding health Q has bred very well. Several litters has been completely free for ED/HD. And my goal with this litter is to start the process to improve the health on my breeding individuals. Oddvarg have with the combinations I have made, achieved very good substance of mentality in our dogs. The mentality we have – health will be next target but at the same time the mental should not be compromised. 

 

   

Other offsprings after Orry has great results. Magbert Blitzenstein is a son which was trained by Roger Snollaerts before he was sold to USA. Magbert is the father of Zidane Vom Haus Sevens who was trained and handled by Johnny Degens from Veerle in Belgium. Zidane and Johnny was in the elite among good equipages from Belgium when they competed. Zidane was the winner of several major competitions, and always with top results in tracking and protection work. To times participant in WUSV Championship (2003-2004) both times among the top 10. Once the best protection work and the second time with second best. An incredibly powerful dog in work, great physical strength and attitude. Strong as a grisly with a grisly-head. Zidane is also father and grandfather for great working dogs. Among others Hasko jr which lives in Tromsø and are trained by Morten Gabrielsen. For more info about Zidane read at web. Owned today by Alabamak9 in US.

2X WUSV, SCHH3, IPO3
 
Zidane v.h. Sevens
Zidane v.h. Sevens
   
Zidane v.h. Sevens
 

 

Conclusion:

All breeders have a desire to improve the breed. Which view we have, and how this will be improved are very different. For those who have read this article and who keeps up with www.oddvarg.no knows that I am not pleased with the German Shepherds development through the latest years, and the problems are man-made. All the time that breeding requests to our understanding and not on scientific principles much will depend on the eyes that sees and the brain that understands.

 

Let me make a comparison: If a man hangs on the façade of the 5:th floor on Oslo Plaza, he has a good view of what’s happening on the street below him. If a crime should occur, this person could play an important role as a whiteness. Especially in the hunt of the criminal. He will have good overview, and if he also manages to interpret this and provide valuable information to the proper authorities, his observations and opinions will be very valuable. But he doesn’t have to be smarter than you or me. He has just got a better view.

Breeding is about having a vision of how our dogs should be in a future perspective. Good breeders have insight and overview of the breed and individuals. If you in additional can identify and interpret what you see in each individual, there are possibilities to select the breeding stock for improving the next generation and generations to come.

Thanks for reading.  

 

Odd-Ivar Gjersvik

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